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This turned up in my Google News lists today:
Orange County Gays condemn Ronald Reagan celebrations,
by Fernando Palazzo, "Orange County Gay Culture Examiner" (not making that up).
This article is 3 short paragraphs. Paragraph 1 includes this: "Joel Waddell of the Orange County Equality Project says Ronald Reagan ignored Aids [sic] and helped the public perceive homosexuals as awful people." (Emphasis added.) Paragraph 2 is this quote from Waddell:
Ronald Reagan basically laughed at the disease. Many accounts reveal that he thought Homosexuals deserved AIDS because they were engaging in behavior that goes against God’s wishes. Our group, as well as others throughout Southern California, will not forget this.
Paragraph 3, a wishy-washy semi-counter-opinion from some random "graduate student," is someone's idea of "balanced" reporting. I guess, if you're only assigned to "examine" the "culture," and a random grad student's offhand chatter passes for counterbalance, you don't have to worry about little journalistic things like checking up on, for example, citations for those "many accounts." It's enough of a fact that Waddell believes these things.
I suspect Ronald Reagan truly wasn't making AIDS his top priority, what with the Cold War (remember that?) and the economy and all, but I somehow doubt that he was all that instrumental in helping "the public perceive homosexuals as awful people." I'm afraid much of the "homosexual culture" has managed to do that to themselves, and it has nothing to do with their sexual preferences!
Wondering about Reagan's actual statements and stance on AIDS & homosexuality, during his administration especially, I Googled "Ronald Reagan on AIDS homosexuality" and the first several links were all "Why Ronald Reagan's legacy should be vilified, not sanctified," like this one by Allen White at SFGate.![]()
"As America remembers the life of Ronald Reagan," writes White, "it must never forget his shameful abdication of leadership in the fight against AIDS. History may ultimately judge his presidency by the thousands who have and will die [sic] of AIDS." White goes on to condemn Reagan because Falwell said AIDS was a divine punishment and Falwell supported Reagan. Also, Reagan's communications director Pat Buchanan argued that AIDS is "nature's revenge on gay men.'" (Because this is so widely quoted, I really had to do some google-digging to find the original. Still haven't found it, but found this more complete secondary reference:
"On AIDS, Buchanan wrote in 1983: 'The poor homosexuals -- they have declared war upon nature, and now nature is extracting an awful retribution (AIDS),'" referenced to the Los Angeles Times, 1986-11-28, and other places, but can't find the original yet. Still digging. Buchanan's attitudes about homosexuality aside, just as a stand-alone comment, that actually seems an unfortunate but factual assessment of common liberal denial of association between personal behaviors and medical consequences.)
White's article goes on to describe the rapid early rise of AIDS, and Reagan's continuing "silence" as deaths mount.
Writing in the Washington Post in late 1985, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, stated: "It is surprising that the president could remain silent as 6,000 Americans died, that he could fail to acknowledge the epidemic's existence. Perhaps his staff felt he had to, since many of his New Right supporters have raised money by campaigning against homosexuals. ... Dr. C. Everett Koop, Reagan's surgeon general, has said that because of "intradepartmental politics" he was cut out of all AIDS discussions for the first five years of the Reagan administration. The reason, he explained, was "because transmission of AIDS was understood to be primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs." The president's advisers, Koop said, "took the stand, 'They are only getting what they justly deserve.'"
Was Reagan slow on addressing this new, mysterious disease with the obvious primary spread pattern of (let's face it) unsanitary personal habits? Did he fail to rebuke homophobic voices inside and outside his administration? Did he fail to throw massive federal funding at the disease? It's always easy to say what someone should have done, could have done, ought to have done, in retrospect. I still don't see this as Reagan himself having the kind of "let them die, they deserve it, the scum" attitude which seems still to be attributed to him. "How profoundly different might have been the outcome if his leadership had generated compassion rather than hostility." Maybe. Had he been able to move more quickly. Or, possibly, we would see that today, despite all we've learned, all we've researched, and all we've spent, we are still nearly clueless on how to combat this intriguing and invalubably educational disorder.
It is unfortunate that the construction of voices and events can justify the argument that Reagan was "hostile." There were enough Falwells in there, it's true. However, the real problem is that conservatism is indeed innately "hostile" to the liberal propensity to start throwing massive tax dollars at everything one thinks is wrong in society. In a purely libertarian perspective, health research isn't even the proper province of government!
Whereas, for liberals, the well is bottomless, for conservatism, the budget must be considered. "Despite Reagan's stated desire to cut spending, federal spending grew during his administration. However, economist Milton Friedman pointed out that non-defense spending as a percentage of national income stabilized throughout Reagan's term, breaking a long upward trend; the number of new regulations added each year dramatically decreased as well." -Wikipedia![]()
Even if providing funding, there is the related budgetary decision of setting up specialized ad hoc bureacracies and facilities for such purposes, or just boosting funding for existing researchers, a move less politically dramatic but scientifically sensible. That's what Reagan seems to have done, as I discovered in this article by Deroy Murdock.![]()
What we have in the fertile imaginations of so many is a fantasized demon Reagan:
"Ronnie, say something," Nancy pleaded. The president coolly maintained his silence. He never even looked at his beloved First Lady.
That's how Showtime Sunday night depicted a scene from the White House residence in The Reagans, the controversial TV movie about the conservative chief executive and his devoted wife. Reagan's alleged homophobia and indifference to AIDS patients are among the reasons Reaganites attacked the program, leading CBS to cancel its broadcast premiere and shift it instead to Showtime, the network's sister pay-cable channel.
The original script was far worse.
"Those who live in sin will die in sin," says President Reagan, as portrayed by actor James Brolin. Teleplaywright Elizabeth Egloff eventually admitted she had no evidence on which to base this scandalous comment. "We know he ducked the issue over and over again," she told the New York Times in self-defense.
The author quotes long-time Reagan pal and one-time Atty Gen Edwin Meese saying he "recalls AIDS as a key issue with which Reagan's senior staff grappled."
"I can remember numerous sessions of the domestic-policy council where the surgeon general provided information to us, and the questions were not whether the federal government would get involved, but what would be the best way. There was support for research through the NIH. There also were questions about the extent to which public warnings should be sent out. It was a question of how the public would respond to fairly explicit warnings about fairly explicit things. Ultimately, warnings were sent out."
"As I recall, from 1984 onward — and bear in mind that the AIDS virus was not identified until 1982 — every Reagan budget contained a large sum of money specifically earmarked for AIDS," says Peter Robinson, a former Reagan speechwriter and author of How Ronald Reagan Changed My Life. "Now, people will argue that it wasn't enough," Robinson adds. "But, of course, that's the kind of argument that takes place over every item in the federal budget. Nevertheless, the notion that he was somehow callous or had a cruel or cynical attitude towards homosexuals or AIDS victims is just ridiculous."
Allen White wrote, "Reagan would ultimately address the issue of AIDS while president. His remarks came May 31, 1987 (near the end of his second term), at the Third International Conference on AIDS in Washington. When he spoke, 36,058 Americans had been diagnosed with AIDS and 20,849 had died. The disease had spread to 113 countries, with more than 50,000 cases."
But Murdock's article counters, "New York University's archived, hard copies of budget documents from fiscal year 1984 through FY 1989 show that Reagan proposed at least $2.79 billion for AIDS research, education, and treatment. In a Congressional Research Service study titled AIDS Funding for Federal Government Programs: FY1981-FY1999, author Judith Johnson found that overall, the federal government spent $5.727 billion on AIDS under Ronald Reagan. This higher number reflects President Reagan's proposals as well as additional expenditures approved by Congress that he later signed."
Look at his chart of the allocation of six thousand million dollars for AIDS from 1982-1989, look at the rate of increase!
As Murdock writes,
Free-marketeers may argue that the federal government should have left AIDS research and care to the private sector. Whether or not one embraces that perspective, no one justifiably can regard Reagan's requested and actual AIDS spending as a gleefully applied death sentence for AIDS sufferers.
Besides, could much have been done with an even larger cash infusion during the infancy of AIDS?
"You could have poured half the national budget into AIDS in 1983, and it would have gone down a rat hole," says Michael Fumento, author of BioEvolution: How Biotechnology Is Changing Our World. "There were no anti-virals back then. The first anti-viral was AZT which came along in 1987, and that was for AIDS." As an example of how blindly scientists and policymakers flew as the virus took wing, Fumento recalls that "in 1984, Health and Human Services Secretary Margaret Heckler predicted that there would be an AIDS vaccine by 1986. There is no AIDS vaccine to date."
This article also cites when Reagan first publicly addressed the issue ("no later than September 17, 1985") and the extensive passage where Reagan mentioned AIDS by name five times and called it a "major epidemic public health threat" in his February 6, 1986, State of the Union address.
And as for the old homophobe image? The touching story of daddy Reagan explaining homosexuality to Patti while watching a Rock Hudson-Doris Day kiss is just wonderful. And pure Reagan. How anyone could think the man could have made his career in Hollywood and hated gays is beyond me! The article recalls how Reagan's stern and principled opposition to Proposition 6, a 1978 ballot measure that called for the dismissal of California teachers who "advocated" homosexuality, even outside of schools, was instrumental in the proposition's defeat. Seems to me, these positions of Reagan's were not based on religious dogma or social prejudice but on the same simple American principles he always espoused, as the Murdock article quotes Kenneth T. Walsh, from his 1997 biography, Ronald Reagan, "In the final analysis, Reagan felt that what people do in private is their own business, not the government's."
Lehrer, and similar subversive forces, were an early part of the undermining of society and the collapse of patriotism, family and morality in the 1960s.
On his NewsFromMe blog, Mark Evanier posts Tom Lehrer, performing Poisoning Pigeons in the Park, from 1998!
Murdering pigeons. Randy (but prepared!) scouts. Your friendly neighborhood dope peddler. All in good, winking satirical fun? Hardly! Lehrer, and similar subversive forces like the Three Stooges, Charles Addams, Don Martin, and Allan Sherman (now that you mention him), were an early part of the undermining of society and the collapse of patriotism, family and morality in the 1960s. There's no other explanation for my older brother's macabre frog torture chamber amusement park!
Naturally, I passed along the important cultural touchstone of Tom Lehrer songs when my kids (now all grown) were young and impressionable, but until now, I realize, they had never had the privilege of seeing him perform. Truly deserving of a non-Valley Girl "Awesome!" One of my longest- and most deeply-held beliefs is that in this mortal coil one (at least this one) can never have enough of Tom Lehrer. (No doubt helped to encourage those of us who so believe that he didn't overexpose himself. Great to see Daniel (Harry Potter) Radcliffe on The Graham Norton Show enthusing about Lehrer before a cappella'ing "The Elements," but it was so strange to see everybody else's crickets reaction at the mention of Master Lehrer.) Such a treat to see him perform again, as impressive as ever (or my memory betrays me, increasingly a possibility), undiminished in wit, keyboard skill, masterful vocal control, and that get away with murder boyish charm! Which, at nearly sixty I can appreciate somehow the same as and yet qualitatively more than when I was twelve, watching TW3.
Not that one could tell, but Lehrer has always been a major inspiration for my own sometimes-humorous lyrical efforts (e.g. Risk) as well as my attempts to make nice sounds instead of noises result from my hammerings at the piano.
Re-reading the above, I thought to check Wikipedia re the American version of TW3... The cast..! I had no idea! Do vids of TW3 survive? They are occasionally requested on the Internests but I've never seen any posts. That Wikipedia link led me to the Tom Lehrer page, where the Rhino releases (OH?!?) are mentioned and so... I should ask more from the Googlyweb, the one force in the universe more knowledgeable than (if not as reliable as) Mark E. ;)
But! Busy (and chronically disorganized) lives mean sometimes we think of things like that and don't get a round tuit, even with all the convenience of googleynet. Which is why your passing along this link is such a welcome service. Mark, thanks a million -- thanks those astronomical numbers only governments can pile up!
Addendum: Searching Mark's site turned up a young Tom Lehrer, poisoning pigeons.
Jerry respected science and had to reconcile its facts with his belief in the Bible's -- including Genesis's -- inerrancy.
A relative recently tweety-linked to this article.
"...There were others who attempted to mediate between evolution and Christianity. In the most common form of the argument, they asserted that the Bible tells the story of the who and the why of creation, but not the how. The how was left to empirical science and its theory of evolution...."
Back in the text-only pre-Internet days, when the kids were babes, the forums on Compuserve helped me feel connected during many a housebound Chicago winter's day. I was a long-time deeply-involved participant in Religion Forum especially, still one my most cherished experiences. Unparalleled in my life was that intellectual intensity of theological discussions, and I guess I could say sheer quantity of opportunities for sharing and gleaning truth. Like all social groups, there was lots of friendly shmoozing and casual banter, friendships built up through "mere" text correspondence, but mostly I remember sincere seekers of truth, believers of all sorts, debating earnestly, and holding forth about their own moving beliefs and inspiring experiences!
Among so many with whom I held sometimes long and occasionally-sensible (heh) philosophic and theologic discussions was Dr. Jarrell Bairrington (I think I still remember how to spell his name). Jerry was an Air Force.. um.. Major, I think, retired. He was a Bible-believing Gospel-slinging Baptist minister from down in Texas, and while I never saw him, I always pictured him as kind-of a tall drink of water with a shock of wavy white hair. Jerry was also one of the more intensely involved long-term participants in Religion Forum; then, one day, he went noticeably offline for several weeks; then he came back on like gangbusters. Whereas he had been almost as verbose as I (no mean feat), he had always been relatively laid-back. When he came back from his hiatus, he was preaching that Gospel like the End was Near to anyone who'd care to read and with all who would discuss; it was clear he was in a different, high-preacher mode. Shortly after, he vanished again, and then we found out why the change. One last message, posted by his daughter, briefly announced to our heartbroken community that our friend Dr. Jerry had died.
All I've ever found on him on the Net (haven't searched for a while) is a listing of his grave, in a vet cemetery in Texas.
I treasure my friendship with Dr. Jerry, developed through our correspondence and debates. Jerry and I, like old frathouse denizens, had hung around Religion Forum so long and constantly (where did I get the time?), and had so many interactions with one another, and observed each others' interactions with others on the forum, that I guess, looking back, we were a couple of the Main Characters there, but especially he was.
Writing about him now, I realize I miss seeing his handle pop up in a "from" field.
Jerry and I had our differences, unquestionably, on matters theological, but we shared a mutual reverence for faith, for Jesus and our Father. His evangelical enthusiasm was inspiring, and his dedication to Jesus was evidently deep. He was also just a nice guy. All of us, especially those of us who were young then (grin), can lose our tempers or drop a flame-word now and then, but I can't recall Jerry ever doing so; even after he came back blazing like a Nova, he
was not flaming. Some people got offended by him, but that was just wrong, because he was not mean-spirited, he just wasn't mincing words about his faith and beliefs; especially at the end.
Did I mention Jerry had been by training and employment a scientist? Aw, I can't remember now, chemist? As I recall, it was during his intense on-the-way-to-checkout period, in a discussion with a resident atheist (another long-time regular), that Jerry expounded upon his outlook on Genesis 1, a unique interpretation to my knowledge at the time. Jerry surprised our atheist correspondent I think, because he did not deny the millennia-long complicated developmental patterns of scientifically apparent cosmological and biological progress. Jerry respected science and had to reconcile its facts with his belief in the Bible's -- including Genesis's -- inerrancy.
Now, I can't do Jerry justice without digging out our old conversations, which may be stored on 5" floppies somewhere, but I'm pretty sure I don't have a 5" player installed on any of our computers anymore! I'll just do my best from memory.
As I recall, the time scale he dismissed up-front as irrelevant. He wasn't so much of a literalist that he took a day to mean 24 hours before there was earth or sun to give measure to an earthly day. If an age is as a day to God, then six of God's days equals.. as long as it takes. I don't really recall well how he addressed this aspect.
Much better remembered was the primary thrust of his interpretation, that Genesis 1 describes evolution, cosmological and biological Then he carefully proceeded to parallel "formless and empty...," "separated the light from the darkness...," etc., with the evident scientific progression from nothingness to initial energy, matter from light, forms from cosmic dust, then life, vegetation first, then animals, lower forms to higher, fish, bird, mammal, just like evolution indicates, and finally arising from animals, humankind. That's what Jerry saw. (As I re-tell it, anyway.)
Our resident atheist would have none of it, of course. He argued that Genesis was silly, because the earth was created before the stars. I
wish I could remember all Jerry's replies, because in debate our resident atheist was good, but Jerry was good, too. Yes, science doesn't indicate "earth and water" appeared before sky and stars, so the meaning of the initial earth-appearance he related to the coalescence of matter from energy, and the rest of the chemical derivations that occur as space-time progresses. Okay, something like that. He was both a much better scientist and Genesis exegesist than am I. While I don't recall all the details of this long-ago exchange, Jerry gave me a new take on Gen. 1.
What has always impressed me about Gen. 1 was this: In the realm of genesis (origin) stories among the peoples of the earth, you have giants dropping from mother-trees, coyotes barfing up humanity, and turtles all the way down. I mean only to be mocking for the sake of snarkiness :P not really to disparage all these cultures. Everybody, always, wants to know, where did I come from? and in the absence of better understanding, where the fabulous was believed to be real, and reason and science were far in the future, such tales gave people sense of place in the universe.
Of all the origin tales of the world, however, Gen. 1 is unique in every way (except that giving of sense of place, which for my dime it does better than all others). Most tales are absolutely fantastic, beginning with some already-existent Force, or Coyote, or Tree, or something; none other begins with a personal self-purposive Divine Father involved in fiat creation by will alone. Those fables may have provided comfort in a pre-scientific age, but none other describes a progressive developmental plan (under divine guidance).
The words and meanings of Genesis which we've inherited are understood to be the explanations given to pre-scientific peoples in a way that would best inform them and least confuse them, then a certain leeway for metaphorical usage is understandable. Even if it's off in some particulars from what science believes this week, what's most remarkable, under Dr. Jerry's interpretation, is that somehow, millennia ago, long before scientific enlightenment, long before anyone could comprehend other galaxies or Copernican space or graduated biological progression, somebody revealed this origin story which, by golly, holds up purty durn well scientifically! (That's supposed to be my Okie accent, not Jerry's Texan.) Void, check; energy (Big Bang if you will), check; matter, vegetation, animals, humans, in that order, checkcheckcheck, check. Bonus question, God behind it all? Check! Fact is, if this interpretation of Genesis 1 revealing the course of evolution is a stretch, it's not really much of a stretch at all.
I have now (2012 May 14) found what appears to be the obituary for his wife, who died 2011 July 16. Registered Nurse for 60 yrs and taught CNA's the last few years of her career. Survived by her children: Sara Bairrington, Beth West, and Jarrell Bairrington Jr, & wife Debra, 4 grandchildren and 13 great grandchildren.
It's nice to know my memory of Jerry's medical and military and scientific credits is not too faulty. Thanks to Google Books you can peek at Hemostasis and coagulation: theoretical concepts by Jarrell D. Bairrington, USAF School of Aerospace Medicine, Aerospace Medical Division (AFSC), Brooks Air Force Base (Tex.), among other works.
Gay Chicago Hillary Clinton-supporter starts the best conservative-activist (and Palin-for-President) site?
Many of my favorite weblinks these days I've come to via HillBuzz.org
which has an ear on a lot of important sources, and where the participants in the comments are a constant cornucopia of links to information and ideas on all sorts of important matters. Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart (if you've heard of any of them) have taken notice of HillBuzz. Gay Chicago Hillary Clinton-supporter starts the best conservative-activist (and Palin-for-President) site?
One sadly amusing angle is HillBuzz's disdainful reporting on the pervasive knee-jerk left-wing brainwashed gay culture, which to me represents in microcosm the mind-sets of all left-aligned cultures.
Their descriptions of the "cocktail party Republican" machine in Chicago, RINOs dedicated to more John McCains, to self-advancement, but not actually to winning elections, reminds me of my father John Tyler's telling me of the Oklahoma Republican Party before, well, before he and Henry Bellmon
and the like made the Republicans serious contenders in Oklahoma. Alas but apparently, still too much of the Republican Partiers today.
I've never read Machiavelli, but I think I got the general idea,
and in the spirit of conspiracy theorizing, I sometimes imagine HillBuzz is TOO good, that tomorrow they'll be exposed as some George Soros-financed left-wing treachery.
But HillBuzz seems trustworthy on inside info from Barry's home town. On the TMI but nevertheless biographically interesting side, one of the gay bathhouses Obama reputedly frequented before his reconstruction was close to our old neighborhood; his reputation then was not positive, which is to suggest this is not where he learned to bow. (ICK!) The HillBuzz has it that the Prez has AIDS or possibly Parkinson's; Parkinson's may derive from cocaine abuse, to which BO's admitted a little and reputed to have done a lot more. HillBuzz is, he will claim Parkinson's as an excuse to bow out in 2012, to retire and write books and give speeches about how horrible America is, like Carter. Hard to imagine the Ego In Chief would let go for any reason, but then, the HillBuzz is that Michelle's friends say she's sick of D.C., hated coming back after their last vacation, and wants to get back to Hawaii after one term.
In any case, a lot will depend on what the Republicans throw at 2012. HillBuzz community is leaning toward Palin-West, which I think would trounce anybody the Democrats could put up, but I just can't imagine the Republicans going so out of stodgy character.
Which brings me to a good, if long-overdue item with which to close:
Much of conservatism is negative. We want the Government’s hands out of our pockets, its nose out of our business. Lower taxes, fewer regulations.
This is important, but it is not the sort of thing to stir the souls of men. That demands something positive. Something that must be won, earned, taken.
The founders of this nation spoke in such terms. Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Reagan did, too. Kennedy had it down cold.
But I’ve not seen it since from any Republican. And it is desperately needed. Not merely for political victory, but to trigger a national renaissance. We need to be called to greatness again.....
bastiat fan replies February 4, 2011 at 5:03 pm:
Minor quibble: much of conservatism is NOT negative, but is presented badly. My hero Frederich Bastiat said:
“The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended”
I heard this timely item on Mark Levin,
then found the YouTube.
Reagan on Carter & the Shah![]()
One day, I sat down with my little girl to watch Mr Rogers, but instead found Dan Rather with a model of a rocket in front of him, and before he could say a word, my heart sank. Touching on all the right points, a much-needed, sincere, and well-delivered Presidential eulogy.![]()
I don't even want to think about how Obama would handle a moment like that. Oh, wait! We already know, from his Gifford speech and his reaction after Fort Hood!
Always worth another watch, the classic "Tear down this wall!"![]()
This led me to review several great videos from the fall of the wall -- What a still-inspiring moment! -- like this one.![]()
Not videos, but perhaps you've seen the original TIME's Obama-Reagan cover?
Maybe you've also seen one of the "flipped" versions.
But have you seen this
great alternative version?![]()
And one last Reagan item:
I convinced my McGovern voting Democrat parents to vote for Reagan. We had a class project to write about the candidates. I did Reagan, the more I read the more I liked. I showed my parents, and as innocent young kids are apt to do, I asked them why they liked Carter. They could not give me an answer. They voted for Reagan and never looked back. They still owe me for that one!!!
HillBuzz commentor lori February 1, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Additional Reagan centennial links
US Marine Cries During 21 Gun Salute to Ronald Reagan at His Birthday Tribute (Video)
Reagan historic site board rejects federal ownership
The board of directors for the Ronald Reagan Boyhood Home National Historic Site voted four years ago to turn down an offer from the National Park Service to buy the Dixon site, said Ann Lewis, chairwoman of the Dixon Reagan Centennial Commission.
The board decided that given Reagan’s belief in small government, he wouldn’t have wanted his boyhood home to become federal property.
“We figured Mr. Reagan would be real unhappy,” she said.
Reagan, the only Illinois-native elected president of the United States, was born in Tampico, Ill., on Feb. 6, 1911, and lived in Chicago, Galesburg and Monmouth before spending his adolescent years in Dixon.

