One last comment on homeopathy.
Homeopaths will tell you, if you aren't taking the correct remedy, nothing will happen.
Skeptics will tell you, no matter what, nothing will happen.
(Assuming proper manufacturing.)
So, never worried too much about experimenting with it in non-critical instances. 
BurtTC: Not a question of ignoring, simply choosing not to argue.
Appreciated, nonetheless. And I can't argue about it. I can only testify to extensive personal experience and observation, making no claims that it's evidential beyond anecdotal.
Something got rid of my lifelong horrible allergy to poison ivy, right after taking homeopathic Rhus Tox. Don't care what it was.
Christopher Taylor: Immunization triggers the body's natural response to invading bacteria by introducing harmless versions of it...
Um, IANAD, clearly, but isn't that virii, not bacteria?
Just want to express my appreciation that my testimony of decades of positive experience trying homeopathy has not been directly assaulted by those of you who (presumably not having tried it) are so sure it's purely quackery.
Although it probably just has to do with ignoring my comments altogether, as usual.
FenelonSpoke: I have never used any homeopathic remedies then.
Heh. Well, then, I renounce my saying I back up FS.
And reiterate my statement that much of what is called homeopathy isn't.
BurtTC: We can attribute that to the stuff we took, but really, we don't know. We can't know. And if there isn't any credible evidence out there that it does work? I have no interest in fooling myself into believing it did."
We've often had folks with severe long-term problems come to us thankful for changes after taking a recommended homeopathic.
A couple of times, after taking a homeopathic we've recommended, someone will report back, "the remedy didn't do anything. I just got better."
Heh. Fine. That's the important part.
Be careful about reading health books.
You may die of a misprint.
-Mark Twain
Backing up FenelonSpoke on efficaciousness of homeopathy. Used it for 30 years and have seen some dang near miracles. If it's all placebo effect, that's some pretty good placebo effect.
1. Much of what is called homeopathy isn't.
2. Homeopathy is not easy, with thousands of remedies and a variety of dosages.
3. I've never seen testing of homeopathy that was done right. (E.g. if it marshalls the body's own defenses, you won't get the effect in a petri dish.)
4. As FS says, it's not a cure-all. There's a remedy that allegedly helps bone healing, but it won't set the break for you.
5. eman: By what mechanism does it work?
There are theories, one good theory I saw posted here one night years ago, but there is nothing at all shown about how or why it should work.
6. It's crazy stuff. If I hadn't seen so many cures for so many decades, I wouldn't believe it myself.
7. If you want to compare with "slow degradation" to voodoo and alchemy, I'd suggest acupuncture and acupressure, aromatherapy, healing hands, magnetic healing, crystals, reflexology, and any number of other possibilities would be better argument than homeopathy. Even most "herbal" cures are BS, despite herbs being the basis for so much good medicine.
FWIW, YMMV, IANADoctor
The old Sterch's Bar, Chicago, decades ago, before they painted over the classic graffiti'd men's room, there was a series of small rubber-stamped images. Man drinking from beer mug. Man peeing into beer mug. Repeat repeatedly.
Never saw it anywhere else. Can't find it on googlepix. But this is similar in spirit:
http://bit.ly/1Prz5o7
"Cocktail guide offers recipes made with urine...."
This, along with Krak's sour post about abandoning science, and Y-Not's about deteriorating national sovereignty, re just making my Saturday bright and sunny, yessir.
Speaking of sunny, nice day out. Thinking I'll take a walk. Urine yur own on this one. P!$$es me off.
grammie winger: I'm without a car today. ...could clean the house....
Both the van and the vacuum cleaner went in the respective shops last week, and we didn't get them back before the weekend as we'd hoped. You have to plan ahead like that. (We do have the pick'm up, though.)
I've never heard of the roller on a vacuum (upright) seizing up, but that's apparently what happened.
Loyalty to the family became loyalty to the tribe. Tribes became extended to alliances of tribes. In time, loyalty extended beyond blood to the city-state. City-states became States. States became United States. (I may have glazed over a few steps.) For good reasons.
In the course of things, we will have - must have - one sovereign world-state. Until then, it's "wars and rumors of wars," among opposing "sovereign" entities.
When I was young and dumb, I saw Alaska's and Hawaii's stars added to the flag, and I thought, wow, others could join in our Constitutional government, too! I imagined a possible North American union (I think I picked that up from some comic book). Back when I thought better of both Canada and Mexico.
WW2 ended less than a decade before I was born, and was still picking up the pieces when I was young. I saw Europe form a Union, and I hoped it would be a real "United Europe" like the USA is, bringing peace after hundreds of years of European war.
Even the African Union seemed positive as a development. All of these, in theory, seemed good.
I did not view all unions of states as positive, of course - the USSR in particular. All I ever needed to see was the bodies hanging on the fence between the Germanys to know that the USSR was a prison.
Eventually, I learned that the United Nations was more the enemy of free people than a route to world unity.
Throughout, though, I pledged allegiance exclusively to the flag of the United States of America.
What the Internationalists and New World Orderers want is to eliminate national sovereignty and impose a world union that is more USSR than USA. A godless order of rule by men, in violation of everything our Constitution and ideas of Rights stand for.
As such, we must do everything possible to resist them. Everything.
I still believe a world union is inevitable. Perhaps in a thousand years or two, the rest of the world can learn to have government the way the United States has - or, had, and is forgetting to preserve. Then we might begin to evolve to a worthy world union. Only then.
How many nations will fall and rise, how many wars will be fought, before that? God only knows. We can only endeavor to preserve what we've been given.
In the immediate perspective, one thing seems clear to me: There is only one candidate in the running for President this year who has argued for the sovereignty of the Republic and defended the Constitution against our enemies. He may be flawed and naive in some ways, but there is no other Constitutionalist running. And it's not the "Make America Grate Again" guy.
/rant
When I get to the bottom
I go back to the top of the thread
Where I go and I read
Everything that's been said
Then I get to the bottom
And I see "nood" again...
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
-NaCly Dog
Fraud rules, and the country as a whole gets negative ROE.
-NaCly Dog
I will put my hope in God! I will praise him again--my Savior and my God!
-FenelonSpoke
I don't see any signs that the petitioner's prayer will be answered.
-angela urkel
I'm in a particularly good mood this AM, so I hope that is spreading.
-Chi
Soooo much stupid. We don't deserve to survive as a species.
-Pappy O'Daniel
Man! It's just an emotional roller-coaster here this morning!
I blame Krak's post. Viz:
Good morning! What a great day.
*reads post*
Aaaaand now I'm depressed.
-Turd Ferguson
Y-not: They [NH] like liberal GOPers there, but he [Cruz] is campaigning there as a conservative anyway.
Doesn't he know that he has to be an accent-faking shape-shifting chameleon to succeed?
"The name doesn't ring many bells."
Geez, Krak. Way to honor the man with a big downer article. What is this, Monday?
Morning, glorious Earthlings!
And to strange visitors from other worlds. (Raises coffee cup to Mitchell.)
I've bean watching this thread, and, holy cow! I have no beef with y'all doing food puns, but I wouldn't want to egg you on. It's such a cereal feeling. Time for me to go to bread, anyway, butt, er, you just carrion.
Good night, Gracies.
DC in River City: ...Except the whole seven million miles from the ocean thing, Tulsa could be paradise.
Feature, not bug.
Aaah. Home sweet home. (Pants off, beverage in hand.)
publius: I had to just turn it up and dump him out. He ran off then. Stupid moron.
My previously-told possum tail. Road runner bonus.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=357223#c23733345
* shaking off sock *
Nothing much to say. Life's like that sometimes.
