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You want ... acceptance, honor, and glory among the horde.

You'd settle for ... not being despised and mocked cruelly like that persistent twerp.

You get ... banhammered by the Ewok in a grouchy mood.

»» Long ago I used to fill in for Vic when he was AWOL -- I'd post the lede and links to a dozen or so stories.
Nobody seemed to like it so I said fuck it and quit.
Posted by: Ed Anger

Must've been before my time, dont recall. I have tried to pick up some of th slack for Vic, a little, on his days off. Takes effort, certainly more than I can do from my little cell.

Vic does great work, consistently. Obviously no one can match Vic for opinion. But all morning news links are appreciated. This is the morning herald for some of us.

Been doing online comm for decades, Ed, and one important thing I learned, you dont realize how many appreciative lurkers you might have.

Thanks for the content-rich thread, Andy.

Hope using the "happiest place" slogan doesn't get Ace sued by Disney.

Or Kim Jung Un (however you spell it, autoincorrect didn't like it).

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Morning, Glories.

..."mean girls" on the blog purging people. -Adam

Purge me mean blog girls! Purge meee!

Wait... does that mean what I think it means?

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And with that, I'm about to be dragged back to my cell for the night.

Good night, Gracies. Remember to thank your angels for putting up with you. YKWIM.

Slow news day. Oklahoma quakes make top of Drudge.

Used to be just tornadoes here in Oklahoma. Now one gets the choice of shaken or stirred.

I've just re-examined the pillow fight picture very closely, and I call fake. If they had really been fighting, there would not have been such a neat Scrabble game. I had for some reason not noticed the game at all until someone here mentioned it.

And YMMV, but for me there were some... interesting vids in the sidebar of tinyurl.com/mw6scox posted by sodak.

Like (NSFW)
Support Your People - Banned Jewish Parody
http://youtu.be/wK9PWLC57vA

║ If we paid the president $100 million dollars a year we could have an honest man in the White House and balance the budget. -Jay Fucking West

Raise the minimum wage for all elected officials! That's the ticket!

I found the hidden kitty in the top photo.

That one was easy.

Good evening, y'all. Here for a moment only as usual, because the ONT is on DST and I'm not.

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92 the letter "e" --Peaches

Wrong! Because it did not make fun, mock, answer absurdly, or have pix.

»» Getting killed in error by the system is a civic service imho. —sven10077

I've always said, if you support execution, you must accept you* might end up there in error - which I presume is the principle to which you're referring. The alternative being anarchy and vigilantism and gangs...

* Fortunately, I've avoided it so far.

»» 110 93 Innocents (at least of the crimes for which they were killed) have been executed. Many times, surely.
»» never been proven - navycopjoe

Meh. I take it as a given that anything humans touch is often fallible despite our best efforts, sometimes corrupt due to our worst. Was meant only in saying, that's still not an argument against the death penalty, any mote than any other part of our efforts at justice.

»» "...be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
Posted by: chique d'afrique

Yeah, what that guy said, too!

»»Death penalty opponents love to point out that it costs more, in terms of appeals, etc, to execute a person than it costs to incarcerate them for life. - PabloD

The two most important aspects of Justice are lost in our system, generally:

1. Swiftness

2. Sureness

If you KNOW Dad's going to whip the tar out of you if you ever do that again, because it still stings from the last time... when you SAW that horse thief tried, convicted, and executed on the spot when caught red-handed... there is some slight deterrent effect on some folks!

I see much of what my tl;dr said has been said awreddy, of course, one way or another, usu better. Esp liked thunderb's, including, "Once incarcerated, their criminality does not end."

The death penalty has been abused. Badly, historically. Plenty of reason to think it still is.

Innocents (at least of the crimes for which they were killed) have been executed. Many times, surely.

A living innocent unjustly incarcerated always has hope of release. The innocent executed, not so much.

The whole concept of jail, punishment, and probation is harsh, and has become an intolerably huge and corrupt industry having little to do with justice and nothing to do with rehabilitation; a reflection of the failing of our level of moral advancement as a society - yes, better than our ancestors, but hideously barbaric by our descendants' standards. I hope.

And, as mentioned, giving The State such power is dangerous, when the State is not people of intelligent self-rule.

NEVERTHELESS

If a person is proved to be, by our best current understandings, an irredeemable sociopath, civilized citizens have every right to protect ourselves, to intervene, to incarcerate, to prevent reproduction of the genetically criminal, and to terminate life, depending on the level of threat. The threat is to those who must manage the prisons, as well as the remote but real threat of escape. (Cost of feeding & housing the hopeless degenerate, obnoxious as it is, ought not be relevant considerations compared to justice and social welfare.)

If a person has a brain tumor affecting self-control, today, we may remove it and, watched carefully, that person may lead a normal life. In the past, they could do nothing but lock him up or hang him, not knowing his medical problems. In the futute, wonders of therapy and drugs and DNA science and spiritual counsel may make true rehabilitation so common that jails are rare. Society may become advanced enough not to produce such a burdensome criminal class in the first place.

However, today's justice cannot depend on what our descendants may learn. They were relatively right to jail or hang in the past, at times. It is still right, at times. It may always be true, at times. We just hope to make the times as few as possible. as fair as possible, to the best of our times' abilities, confident that higher judges will sort us all out perfectly in the next life.

:: waggles wig, sneezes ::

Don't know about other browsers, but handy for Opera are toolbar buttons to toggle on|off javascript & add-ons. Not native, but easy to search out. Set site preferences, like JavaScript-on, on known safe sites, then browse with JavaScript-off, easily toggled on when needed.

By the way...

Opera browser?

&&&&& &&&&& &&&&& &&&&& &c.

I hesitate to keep trying to load Drudge & Breitbart, as that (my refresh + a brazillion others) would seem to me to only increase demand on the servers.

Not sure how it all works, but if like this, then a small DoS attack could have a consequential assist by all those of us who would normally only request the page once.

»Denial of Service

»» Does Opera even work on Windows? —CanaDave

Yes.

My primary browser-brand history:
Netscape
Opera

I use IE on the rare site where Opera won't do some sophisticated secure thing.

I have other browsers only to check what my website looks like in them.

In consequence of discussions here, I have not updated Opera on the desktop past v12. I may actually have to look at some Mozilla browser, eventually.

Dogpile!

How t f did autoincorrect pass "Dogpulem"??

DuckDuckGo = Ixquick, IIRC. Minimal data-gathering, they claim.

Another alternative is search accumulator Dogpulem